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RCE

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:42 am
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My two year old Lab has a habit of barking at anything that moves. We have
a large, fenced backyard but are increasingly unable to let him out to romp
around because he stands at the fence line and barks at the neighbors.

I've tried being with him ... letting him know it's "OK" .... I've tried
scolding him ... nothing works.
He's a dog and is doing his job, my wife says.

Several months ago I bought a high quality shock collar that is supposed to
help discourage constant barking. I haven't used it, mainly because my wife
thinks it's cruel and she gets very upset if I suggest we try it.

I don't know what to do about the barking. I don't think it's fair to
neighbors to have a dog that constantly barks at them and I've tried the
"think like a dog" recommendations including distraction, praise, scolding,
etc. Nothing has worked.

I was told to forget about using the spray type collars as he would probably
like it. The shock type was recommended by a knowledgeable dog trainer.

Any suggestions? Pros or cons on the collar?

RCE

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:20 pm
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"RCE" wrote in message

> My two year old Lab has a habit of barking at anything that moves. We
> have a large, fenced backyard but are increasingly unable to let him out
> to romp around because he stands at the fence line and barks at the
> neighbors.
>
> I've tried being with him ... letting him know it's "OK" .... I've tried
> scolding him ... nothing works.
> He's a dog and is doing his job, my wife says.
>
> Several months ago I bought a high quality shock collar that is supposed
> to help discourage constant barking. I haven't used it, mainly because my
> wife thinks it's cruel and she gets very upset if I suggest we try it.
>
> I don't know what to do about the barking. I don't think it's fair to
> neighbors to have a dog that constantly barks at them and I've tried the
> "think like a dog" recommendations including distraction, praise,
> scolding, etc. Nothing has worked.
>
> I was told to forget about using the spray type collars as he would
> probably like it. The shock type was recommended by a knowledgeable dog
> trainer.
>
> Any suggestions? Pros or cons on the collar?
>
> RCE
>
Personally I taught my dog to only bark on command by making barking a trick
which I praised for then equally praised the quietness...I use commands
"speak" and "quiet" with very light pressure to close the mouth to reinforce
the word "quiet". I don't use food to praise. :)

Hope this helps.


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but in the realisation you always have much to learn.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:31 pm
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There will be those here who probably get upset with me for this but an
e-collar was the best investment I ever bought. I had the same issue with
mine and as a last resort I bought one. It's not the type that shocks the
dog automatically I bought the type that I totally control when and how much
of a stimulation she gets. It has a tone warning and the stimulations at 10
levels.

The thing with using this type of collar is you have to use it properly
along with voice commands. You want to eventually be able to give the dog a
voice command and have it listen without resorting to the use of the collar.
We consistently use the command quiet when we want Lady to stop barking.
With the use of the collar and consistent training she now knows that when I
tell her quiet that it's time to stop barking. I also used the collar to
stop the critter chasing. She will still run rabbits but stops short of
going out of the yard now.

We even use the collar when we go places and I don't need to use a leash
now. I seldom ever have to use the collar but she knows when we are out
that when I call her to come to me and she doesn't that she gets a tone
warning. One tone is all she gets after that I give a short stimulation.
She's a very well behaved dog who goes everywhere with us. My only regret
is that I never invested in one of these collars with my dog Barney.

Celeste



"RCE" wrote in message

> My two year old Lab has a habit of barking at anything that moves. We
> have a large, fenced backyard but are increasingly unable to let him out
> to romp around because he stands at the fence line and barks at the
> neighbors.
>
> I've tried being with him ... letting him know it's "OK" .... I've tried
> scolding him ... nothing works.
> He's a dog and is doing his job, my wife says.
>
> Several months ago I bought a high quality shock collar that is supposed
> to help discourage constant barking. I haven't used it, mainly because my
> wife thinks it's cruel and she gets very upset if I suggest we try it.
>
> I don't know what to do about the barking. I don't think it's fair to
> neighbors to have a dog that constantly barks at them and I've tried the
> "think like a dog" recommendations including distraction, praise,
> scolding, etc. Nothing has worked.
>
> I was told to forget about using the spray type collars as he would
> probably like it. The shock type was recommended by a knowledgeable dog
> trainer.
>
> Any suggestions? Pros or cons on the collar?
>
> RCE
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:43 pm
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"RCE" wrote in message

> My two year old Lab has a habit of barking at anything that moves. We
have
> a large, fenced backyard but are increasingly unable to let him out to
romp
> around because he stands at the fence line and barks at the neighbors.
>
> I've tried being with him ... letting him know it's "OK" .... I've tried
> scolding him ... nothing works.
> He's a dog and is doing his job, my wife says.
>
> Several months ago I bought a high quality shock collar that is supposed
to
> help discourage constant barking. I haven't used it, mainly because my
wife
> thinks it's cruel and she gets very upset if I suggest we try it.
>
> I don't know what to do about the barking. I don't think it's fair to
> neighbors to have a dog that constantly barks at them and I've tried the
> "think like a dog" recommendations including distraction, praise,
scolding,
> etc. Nothing has worked.
>
> I was told to forget about using the spray type collars as he would
probably
> like it. The shock type was recommended by a knowledgeable dog trainer.
>
> Any suggestions? Pros or cons on the collar?
>
> RCE
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:31 am
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"RCE" wrote in message


>
> Any suggestions? Pros or cons on the collar?
>
> RCE


I would go ahead and try it for a week or so. It is not a permanent tool,
only a training device. Give it a try and see what happens.
By the way, if you haven't figured it out already, labs are tough. One of
mine accidentally got banged HARD on the head with a cooking pot and wagging
his tail and thought we were playing a game.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:38 pm
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Hi there
I hate the idea of collars. My two labs were the same. I always made a
point of raising my finger at them and saying "no barking" . If I could
catch them in mid bark it was even better . I carried a treat for them
and if they stopped barking I would give them a treat. Gradually I
stopped the treat - gave them a pat - "good boy" etc and even though
they occasionally start to bark I only have to point at them and they
stop.
Hard habit to break and takes a lot of effort as they are only
defending their territory but I think encouragement is better than the
negative effect of a collar.

John


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>"RCE" wrote in message
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>> Any suggestions? Pros or cons on the collar?
>>
>> RCE
>
>
>I would go ahead and try it for a week or so. It is not a permanent tool,
>only a training device. Give it a try and see what happens.
>By the way, if you haven't figured it out already, labs are tough. One of
>mine accidentally got banged HARD on the head with a cooking pot and wagging
>his tail and thought we were playing a game.
>
>

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:56 pm
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"John Griffiths" wrote in message

> Hi there
> I hate the idea of collars. My two labs were the same. I always made a
> point of raising my finger at them and saying "no barking" . If I could
> catch them in mid bark it was even better . I carried a treat for them
> and if they stopped barking I would give them a treat. Gradually I stopped
> the treat - gave them a pat - "good boy" etc and even though they
> occasionally start to bark I only have to point at them and they stop.
> Hard habit to break and takes a lot of effort as they are only defending
> their territory but I think encouragement is better than the negative
> effect of a collar.
>
> John



I thought about it some more and I agree.
Sam's otherwise a very well mannered dog ... in a goofy, fun loving way and
has developed a lot of trust in me.
I can't see doing the shock collar. We will continue the other forms of
training.

http://www.eisboch.com/sam

RCE
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:35 pm
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HOWEDY RCE,

Subject: Re: Barking Lab


HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >


Somewhere in your 70k of text I suspect you may have something useful to
offer.
Frankly, I gave up trying to read your posts because they give me a
headache.

Thanks anyway.

RCE
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